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[https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ATA-ATA_bridge At least fourteen (14) ATA-to-ATA parallel-serial bridge controller microchips exist (ref WikiDevi).]  The role of such a chip is: to connect two AT Attachment physical busses, bridge communication between Serial and Parallel Transports; and to translate PATA and SATA commands, protocol, and possibly alter responses.  These ICs were primarily produced for embedded applications, storage expansion solutions, and integration in complex products to reuse designs (such as many PC products, including ThinkPad).  Industry wants consumers to continually consume newer junky stuff, rather than extend life of perfectly good things, so datasheets of these controllers were not made available to public.
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Some cheap modular translator adaptor bridge boards exist.  With a SATA to PATA adapter, you can connect a new SATA peripheral device to PATA host ThinkPad.
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{{X40}}, {{X41}}, {{X41T}} use '''SFF-8111 1.8" drive form factor (60x70mm)''' HDD.  A very cheap circuit board (marked 'HX-811 2.5-MSATA') can fit within this f.f.  A seller of this shoddy device might use photos of "QC PASSED" labels to deceive you.  A manufacturer of this product has minimal quality assurance, and does not inspect the pieces before they exit factory.  One specimen was non-functional: a pair of pads were not electrically connected, leaving all circuitry not- powered.  This defect is easy to fix.  Connect the twin pads by placing a blob of solder, zero ohm surface-mount resistor, or other conductive material.
 
 
[[File:HX-811defect.jpeg|thumb|alt=pair of bare pads, circled]]
 
[[File:HX-811defect.jpeg|thumb|alt=pair of bare pads, circled]]
 
[[File:HX-811correct.jpeg|thumb|alt=pair of pads, covered by solder bridge]]
 
[[File:HX-811correct.jpeg|thumb|alt=pair of pads, covered by solder bridge]]
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{{X40}}, {{X41}}, {{X41T}} use '''SFF-8111 1.8" drive form factor (60x70mm)''' HDD.  A very cheap circuit board (marked 'HX-811 2.5-MSATA') can fit within this f.f.  A seller of this shoddy device might use photos of "QC PASSED" labels to deceive you.  A manufacturer of this product has minimal quality assurance, and does not inspect the pieces before they exit factory.  One specimen was non-functional: a pair of pads were not electrically connected, leaving all circuitry not- powered.  This defect is easy to fix.  Connect the twin pads by placing a blob of solder, zero ohm surface-mount resistor, or other conductive material.
  
 
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Tforty and its family, including Rfifty, contain [[Intel 82801DBM|southbridge ICH4]].  [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=115478&p=741729#p741729 It would seem, old firmware versions exhibit behaviour just like in above ICH3 models.]
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Tforty, Rfifty and family, contain [[Intel 82801DBM|southbridge ICH4]].  [http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=115478&p=741729#p741729 It would seem, old firmware versions exhibit behaviour just like in above ICH3 models.]
  
 
affected models probably includes: {{T40}} {{T41}} {{T42}} {{R50}} {{R51}}
 
affected models probably includes: {{T40}} {{T41}} {{T42}} {{R50}} {{R51}}

Revision as of 18:23, 11 November 2014

ATA-ATA bridge

At least fourteen (14) ATA-to-ATA parallel-serial bridge controller microchips exist (ref WikiDevi). The role of such a chip is: to connect two AT Attachment physical busses, bridge communication between Serial and Parallel Transports; and to translate PATA and SATA commands, protocol, and possibly alter responses. These ICs were primarily produced for embedded applications, storage expansion solutions, and integration in complex products to reuse designs (such as many PC products, including ThinkPad). Industry wants consumers to continually consume newer junky stuff, rather than extend life of perfectly good things, so datasheets of these controllers were not made available to public.

Some cheap modular translator adaptor bridge boards exist. With a SATA to PATA adapter, you can connect a new SATA peripheral device to PATA host ThinkPad.

instead of SFF-8111

pair of bare pads, circled
pair of pads, covered by solder bridge

X40, X41, X41 Tablet use SFF-8111 1.8" drive form factor (60x70mm) HDD. A very cheap circuit board (marked 'HX-811 2.5-MSATA') can fit within this f.f. A seller of this shoddy device might use photos of "QC PASSED" labels to deceive you. A manufacturer of this product has minimal quality assurance, and does not inspect the pieces before they exit factory. One specimen was non-functional: a pair of pads were not electrically connected, leaving all circuitry not- powered. This defect is easy to fix. Connect the twin pads by placing a blob of solder, zero ohm surface-mount resistor, or other conductive material.

performance limited to UDMA 2

So you installed some sort of SATA disc in to your favourite laptop. Next, you find its speed limited to Ultra DMA mode 2 33 Mo/s. What is wrong?

over-validated input

IBM, or Phoenix or some group tried to be clever. Too clever, ten years later reaping negative outcome and disappointment. "It's not a bug: it's a feature." ATA Serial Transport is not ATA Parallel Transport; SATA devices (Attachments) not use PATA modes (neither DMA nor PIO signalling). Firmware in some ThinkPad models checks whether drive reports 80-conductor cable, and configures ATA host controller likewise. Sane operating systems limit bus to Ultra DMA 2, as a safety measure when using 40-conductor cable. (Even at limited speed, you really should use UDMA-ready cable.)

known affected models contain southbridge ICH3: A31p R32 T23 T30 X22 X23 X24

old firmware bug

Tforty, Rfifty and family, contain southbridge ICH4. It would seem, old firmware versions exhibit behaviour just like in above ICH3 models.

affected models probably includes: T40 T41 T42 R50 R51

modify Sonoma 2005 models

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