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(working solution: thinkpad power manager for windows allows some PC's to run with full freq on 65W adaptor. same thing is possible in linux only with this fix. thats why this solution should be here.)
(Nothing else works and you know what you are doing?)
 
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{{WARN|CPU frequency limitation is a safety feature of your ThinkPad, do not work around it!  If you have set the BIOS to performance mode and it is still limiting maximum CPU frequency, there is almost always a damn good reason for that}}
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{{WARN|CPU frequency limitation is a safety feature of your ThinkPad, do not work around it!  If you have set the BIOS to performance mode and it is still limiting maximum CPU frequency, there is almost always a good reason for it.}}
  
 
==Symptom==
 
==Symptom==
 
If the battery pack is removed and the laptop is powered by a 65W AC adapter only, the CPU downclocks to the lowest multiplier and remains locked in low speed. This happens irrespective of the scaling method in use (kernelspace or userspace) and of the frequency governor selected (ondemand, performance, etc.).
 
If the battery pack is removed and the laptop is powered by a 65W AC adapter only, the CPU downclocks to the lowest multiplier and remains locked in low speed. This happens irrespective of the scaling method in use (kernelspace or userspace) and of the frequency governor selected (ondemand, performance, etc.).
  
Output of cpufreq-info (on AC power without battery):
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Output of {{cmduser|cpupower frequency-info}} (on AC power without battery):
  
 
   analyzing CPU 0:
 
   analyzing CPU 0:
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   current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
 
   current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
  
Output of cpufreq-info (on AC power with battery plugged in):
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Output of {{cmduser|cpupower frequency-info}} (on AC power with battery plugged in):
  
 
   analyzing CPU 0:
 
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==Solution==
 
==Solution==
  
Make sure no BIOS setting is limiting the CPU frequency range (like "thermal management" = "BALANCED").
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=== Is thermal mangament limiting the speed? ===
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* Make sure no BIOS setting is limiting the CPU frequency range (e.g., thermal management = "BALANCED").
  
# Buy a 90W AC adapter
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=== Is the ThinkPad running on a 65W power adapter? ===
# Don't use the laptop without the battery pack
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* Either replace the 65W AC adapter with a 90W AC adapter, or
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* Install a battery
  
Other solution than using the laptop with the battery pack always inserted is to add "processor.ignore_ppc=1" to kernel boot command line. This allows to disable BIOS frequency limit, but can be mischievous to the computer if it's power consumption is higher than 65W.
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=== Nothing else works and you know what you are doing? ===
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* Add "processor.ignore_ppc=1" to kernel boot command line or run {{cmduser|echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/module/processor/parameters/ignore_ppc}}. This allows to disable BIOS frequency limit, but can be cause the computer to malfunction if its power consumption is higher than 65W and you are running off a 65W AC power adapter with no battery installed.
  
 
== Affected Models ==
 
== Affected Models ==
  
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Confirmed for these models
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* {{T410}}
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* {{T410s}}
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* {{T43p}}
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* {{T60p}}
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* {{T61}}
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* {{X201}}
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* {{X61}}
 
* {{Z61m}}
 
* {{Z61m}}
* {{T61}}
 
* {{T60p}}
 
  
Probably ALL Lenovo ThinkPads.  One can actually track this through the DSDT, but it is not worth the effort.
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but it is probably true of all Lenovo ThinkPads.  One can actually track this through the DSDT, but it is not worth the effort.

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ATTENTION!
CPU frequency limitation is a safety feature of your ThinkPad, do not work around it! If you have set the BIOS to performance mode and it is still limiting maximum CPU frequency, there is almost always a good reason for it.

Symptom

If the battery pack is removed and the laptop is powered by a 65W AC adapter only, the CPU downclocks to the lowest multiplier and remains locked in low speed. This happens irrespective of the scaling method in use (kernelspace or userspace) and of the frequency governor selected (ondemand, performance, etc.).

Output of $ cpupower frequency-info (on AC power without battery):

 analyzing CPU 0:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1000 MHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
 
 analyzing CPU 1:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1000 MHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).

Output of $ cpupower frequency-info (on AC power with battery plugged in):

 analyzing CPU 0:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1.83 GHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
 
 analyzing CPU 1:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1.83 GHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).

Explanation

The 65W AC adaptor does not supply enough power to handle peak power draws from the CPU/disk/GPU on the later ThinkPads. The battery is required to supply the peak demand and ensure correct system operation.

Messing with this can cause data loss, data corruption, and hardware damage.

Solution

Is thermal mangament limiting the speed?

  • Make sure no BIOS setting is limiting the CPU frequency range (e.g., thermal management = "BALANCED").

Is the ThinkPad running on a 65W power adapter?

  • Either replace the 65W AC adapter with a 90W AC adapter, or
  • Install a battery

Nothing else works and you know what you are doing?

  • Add "processor.ignore_ppc=1" to kernel boot command line or run $ echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/module/processor/parameters/ignore_ppc. This allows to disable BIOS frequency limit, but can be cause the computer to malfunction if its power consumption is higher than 65W and you are running off a 65W AC power adapter with no battery installed.

Affected Models

Confirmed for these models

but it is probably true of all Lenovo ThinkPads. One can actually track this through the DSDT, but it is not worth the effort.