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==Symptom==
 
==Symptom==
If the battery pack is removed and the laptop is powered by AC only, the CPU downclocks to the lowest multiplier and remains locked in low speed. This happens irrespective of the scaling method in use (kernelspace or userspace) and of the frequency governor selected (ondemand, performance, etc.).
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If the battery pack is removed and the laptop is powered by a 65W AC adapter only, the CPU downclocks to the lowest multiplier and remains locked in low speed. This happens irrespective of the scaling method in use (kernelspace or userspace) and of the frequency governor selected (ondemand, performance, etc.).
  
Output of cpufreq-info (on AC power without battery):
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Output of {{cmduser|cpupower frequency-info}} (on AC power without battery):
  
 
   analyzing CPU 0:
 
   analyzing CPU 0:
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   current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
 
   current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
  
Output of cpufreq-info (on AC power with battery plugged in):
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Output of {{cmduser|cpupower frequency-info}} (on AC power with battery plugged in):
  
 
   analyzing CPU 0:
 
   analyzing CPU 0:
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   current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
 
   current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
  
==Solution==
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==Explanation==
Other than using the laptop with the battery pack always inserted, no solution is known at this point.
 
  
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The 65W AC adaptor does not supply enough power to handle peak power draws from the CPU/disk/GPU on the later ThinkPads.  The battery is required to supply the peak demand and ensure correct system operation.
  
'''Update:'''
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Messing with this can cause data loss, data corruption, and hardware damage.
  
On my Z61m with a T5500 I had the same problem.
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==Solution==
After several hours of debugging I noticed, that my ACPI BIOS returns another _PPC value (2) than at boot-time with batery (0).
 
The Kernel-code says:
 
        /*
 
        * _PPC indicates the maximum state currently supported by the platform
 
        * (e.g. 0 = states 0..n; 1 = states 1..n; etc.
 
        */
 
Thats mean, that my Bios says, after batery release only state 2 is possible. There is already a (for me unknown and undocumented) Patch for such a worse ACPI BIOS:
 
  
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=623b78c39c4525731f852072edd742cc4fba6786
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=== Is thermal mangament limiting the speed? ===
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* Make sure no BIOS setting is limiting the CPU frequency range (e.g., thermal management = "BALANCED").
  
You only have to add "processor.ignore_ppc=1" to your kernel parameters and everything works fine.
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=== Is the ThinkPad running on a 65W power adapter? ===
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* Either replace the 65W AC adapter with a 90W AC adapter, or
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* Install a battery
  
Tested with 2.6.26-rc1 on a Z61m with a 1.67GHz T5500 Processor.
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=== Nothing else works and you know what you are doing? ===
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* Add "processor.ignore_ppc=1" to kernel boot command line or run {{cmduser|echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/module/processor/parameters/ignore_ppc}}. This allows to disable BIOS frequency limit, but can be cause the computer to malfunction if its power consumption is higher than 65W and you are running off a 65W AC power adapter with no battery installed.
  
'''Update 2:'''
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== Affected Models ==
  
The Patch above seems to be available since 2.6.25
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Confirmed for these models
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* {{T410}}
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* {{T410s}}
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* {{T43p}}
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* {{T60p}}
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* {{T61}}
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* {{X201}}
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* {{X61}}
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* {{Z61m}}
  
== Affected Models ==
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but it is probably true of all Lenovo ThinkPads.  One can actually track this through the DSDT, but it is not worth the effort.
{{Z61m}}
 
{{T61}}
 

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ATTENTION!
CPU frequency limitation is a safety feature of your ThinkPad, do not work around it! If you have set the BIOS to performance mode and it is still limiting maximum CPU frequency, there is almost always a good reason for it.

Symptom

If the battery pack is removed and the laptop is powered by a 65W AC adapter only, the CPU downclocks to the lowest multiplier and remains locked in low speed. This happens irrespective of the scaling method in use (kernelspace or userspace) and of the frequency governor selected (ondemand, performance, etc.).

Output of $ cpupower frequency-info (on AC power without battery):

 analyzing CPU 0:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1000 MHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
 
 analyzing CPU 1:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1000 MHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).

Output of $ cpupower frequency-info (on AC power with battery plugged in):

 analyzing CPU 0:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1.83 GHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).
 
 analyzing CPU 1:
 driver: centrino
 CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
 hardware limits: 1000 MHz - 1.83 GHz
 available frequency steps: 1.83 GHz, 1.33 GHz, 1000 MHz
 available cpufreq governors: ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
 current policy: frequency should be within 1000 MHz and 1.83 GHz.
                 The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                 within this range.
 current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz (asserted by call to hardware).

Explanation

The 65W AC adaptor does not supply enough power to handle peak power draws from the CPU/disk/GPU on the later ThinkPads. The battery is required to supply the peak demand and ensure correct system operation.

Messing with this can cause data loss, data corruption, and hardware damage.

Solution

Is thermal mangament limiting the speed?

  • Make sure no BIOS setting is limiting the CPU frequency range (e.g., thermal management = "BALANCED").

Is the ThinkPad running on a 65W power adapter?

  • Either replace the 65W AC adapter with a 90W AC adapter, or
  • Install a battery

Nothing else works and you know what you are doing?

  • Add "processor.ignore_ppc=1" to kernel boot command line or run $ echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/module/processor/parameters/ignore_ppc. This allows to disable BIOS frequency limit, but can be cause the computer to malfunction if its power consumption is higher than 65W and you are running off a 65W AC power adapter with no battery installed.

Affected Models

Confirmed for these models

but it is probably true of all Lenovo ThinkPads. One can actually track this through the DSDT, but it is not worth the effort.