https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Nomeata&feedformat=atomThinkWiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T22:37:15ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.31.12https://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:R300&diff=22350Talk:R3002006-05-17T21:18:11Z<p>Nomeata: /* X lockups after a couple of seconds */</p>
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<div>Is this relevant also to the [[ATI Mobility Radeon X300]]?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 13:30, 8 Dec 2005 (CET)<br />
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Somewhat. As far as I know, pcie support is still broken with r300, so while in theory the x300 should be supported, it doesn't seem like that's the case at the moment.<br />
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== X lockups after a couple of seconds ==<br />
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I have an T41p and I tried the r300 driver, using Xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 and libgl1-mesa-dri version 6.4.1-0.3, both from debian unstable, on a 2.6.15 kernel. It starts nicely, and 3D acceleration seems to be enabled, but the system freezes after a few seconds after X started up. I used the settings as described on this page. Any idea what to look for? --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 21:03, 21 February 2006 (CET)<br />
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I have the same problem on an R52 with debian testing/unstable (Xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6, libgl1-mesa-dri 6.4.1-0.4). Kernel is 2.6.16. The system is still usable over ssh, but trying to terminate the server freezes it completely (not even SysRq works). Server kill (Signal 9) works, but doesn't restore the console. strace over ssh shows me that the Xorg process is still responding to mouse movements (lots of select()s, read()s, gettimeofday()s) but it always tries to<br />
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{{cmdresult|ioctl(9, 0x6444, 0)}}<br />
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which returns with code -1, errno is EBUSY (Device or resource busy). File descriptor 9 refers to {{path|/dev/dri/card0}}. <br />
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This seems to be an endless loop, maybe a race condition in the X server / r300 driver? I couldn't figure out what ioctl 0x6444 is.<br />
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Hope this helps somebody more familiar with the X internals solve this problem. Guess I'll post a bug report to X.org, too.<br />
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-- acolomb 2006-04-12 20:28 CEDT<br />
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Update: It now works fine. libgl1-mesa-dri 6.4.1-0.4, xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.5.8.0-1, kernel 2.6.16. --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 23:18, 17 May 2006 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:R300&diff=20277Talk:R3002006-02-21T20:03:36Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>Is this relevant also to the [[ATI Mobility Radeon X300]]?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 13:30, 8 Dec 2005 (CET)<br />
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Somewhat. As far as I know, pcie support is still broken with r300, so while in theory the x300 should be supported, it doesn't seem like that's the case at the moment.<br />
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I have an T41p and I tried the r300 driver, using Xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 and libgl1-mesa-dri version 6.4.1-0.3, both from debian unstable, on a 2.6.15 kernel. It starts nicely, and 3D acceleration seems to be enabled, but the system freezes after a few seconds after X started up. I used the settings as described on this page. Any idea what to look for? --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 21:03, 21 February 2006 (CET)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:R300&diff=20276Talk:R3002006-02-21T20:02:21Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>Is this relevant also to the [[ATI Mobility Radeon X300]]?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 13:30, 8 Dec 2005 (CET)<br />
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Somewhat. As far as I know, pcie support is still broken with r300, so while in theory the x300 should be supported, it doesn't seem like that's the case at the moment.<br />
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I have an T41p and I tried the r300 driver, using Xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 and libgl1-mesa-dri version 6.4.1-0.3, both from debian unstable, on a 2.6.15 kernel. It starts nicely, and 3D acceleration seems to be enabled, but the system freezes after a few seconds after X started up. I used the settings as described on this page. Any idea what to look for? --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 21:02, 21 February 2006 (CET)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Problems_with_fglrx&diff=14686Talk:Problems with fglrx2006-01-12T23:35:14Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>== using kernel AGP vs fglrx AGP ==<br />
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Anyone know whether this makes a performance and/or stability difference?<br />
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== 8.20.8 does work fine with current Debian sid packages ==<br />
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<pre><br />
spiney@t43p:~$ dpkg -l xserver-xorg<br />
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold<br />
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed<br />
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)<br />
||/ Name Version Description<br />
+++-============================-============================-==================<br />
ii xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2 the X.Org X server<br />
spiney@t43p:~$ fglrxinfo <br />
display: :0.0 screen: 0<br />
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.<br />
OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY FireGL V3200 Pentium 4 (SSE2) (FireGL) (GNU_ICD)<br />
OpenGL version string: 1.3.5519 (X4.3.0-8.20.8)<br />
</pre><br />
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--[[User:Spiney|spiney]]<br />
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Ahh - thanks for the info. You perhaps compiled the modules for the drivers yourself and did not use the debian packaged fglrx-driver? Thus, it must be an unneeded limitation on the debian packaged driver which limits its installation... Full listing at http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/fglrx-driver which lists as required packages:<br />
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xserver-xorg (<< 6.8.99)<br />
the X.Org X server <br />
xserver-xorg (>= 6.8.0) <br />
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The first limitation (<<6.8.99) is what prevents installation. I'm sure I could force apt to install it, but I may go back to compiling the modules myself, as using fglrx 8.20.8 with kernel 2.6.15 needs a small patch to compile correctly anyway... --[[User:gsmenden|gsmenden]]<br />
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Spiney, where exactly do you have your package from? I re-build the 8.20.8-package from debian with the <<6.8.99 dependecy removed, but when I try to run X, I get <br />
[R200Setup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.0.0.0, required X.org 6.8.0.0<br />
(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)<br />
Any hints? --[User:nomeata|nomeata]<br />
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I used the ati-installer (the huge download), created a Debian sid package and installed it, but got the same error. The installer seems to fetch the wrong driver version from the archive, so I extracted it with<br />
<br />
{{cmd|./ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run --extract <sometempdir>|}}<br />
<br />
and put the necessary files from the created {{path|<sometempdir>/x690}} subdirectory into {{path|/usr}} by hand. All IIRC, it's been some time since. :)<br />
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--[[User:Spiney|spiney]] 07:29, 11 Jan 2006 (CET)<br />
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Thanks for the pointer. This is how you get proper debian packages out of the ati-installer:<br />
./ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run --extract fglrx-tmp<br />
cd fglrx-tmp<br />
$editor packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh # in the line "sid|unstable) X_DIR=x680;;", put a x690 for the x680<br />
./fglrx-tmp/packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh --buildpkg sid<br />
cd ..<br />
sudo dpkg -i fglrx-kernel-src_8.20.8-1_i386.deb fglrx-driver_8.20.8-1_i386.deb<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:35, 13 Jan 2006 (CET)<br />
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== Disabling the external VGA port? ==<br />
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Does anyone know how disable the VGA port ''completely'' even when a cable is attached? Fiddling around with the DesktopSetup and ForceMonitor options didn't do the trick for me, and the MonitorLayout option found in some documentation is no longer valid in the current fglrx driver.<br />
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--[[User:Spiney|spiney]] 19:42, 10 Jan 2006 (CET)<br />
----</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:HDAPS&diff=12295Talk:HDAPS2005-11-16T00:16:09Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>So, this is in the stable kernel now, but what userspace program do we need to actually park the heads?<br />
--[[User:MrStaticVoid|MrStaticVoid]] 01:26, 30 Oct 2005 (CEST)<br />
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Yes the hdaps driver is in the 2.6.14 kernel, but support to park the heads quickly and freeze the disk queue (to prevent the heads from getting un-parked) is not. There is some disagreement into how that should be implemented.<br />
<br />
In other words, the hdaps driver for the moment is rather useless, unless you want to use it to play games.<br />
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--[[User:Tonko|Tonko]] 02:10, 30 Oct 2005 (CEST)<br />
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I head rumours that you can make SDL handle this like a joystick, e.g. for playing Neverball. Can anyone confirm or deny that? Thanx --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 01:16, 16 Nov 2005 (CET)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling&diff=1229How to make use of Dynamic Frequency Scaling2005-01-16T11:10:26Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>===general===<br />
Linux supports Dynamic Frequency Scaling for ThinkPads with mobile Pentium III, Pentium 4 and Pentium M processors.<br />
<br />
===configuring the kernel===<br />
<br />
====2.4 kernels====<br />
Todo...<br />
<br />
====2.6 kernels====<br />
Todo..<br />
<br />
If you have a Coppermine-piix-smi based Thinkpads like from the A2x, X2x and T2x series you might want to look at [[How to get SpeedStep working on Coppermine-piix4-smi based Thinkpads | this page]].<br />
<br />
If you have a p4-class celeron based Thinkpad like the R40e you might want to look at [[How to get SpeedStep working on P4-class-Celeron based Thinkpads | this page]]<br />
<br />
Since 2.6.10, there is the ondemand governor in the kernel, which replaces any userspace daemon for cpu scaling and works very well.<br />
<br />
===configuring SpeedStep daemons===<br />
*[[How to configure cpufreqd | cpufreqd]]<br />
*[[How to configure cpudynd | cpudynd]]<br />
*[[Hot to configure powersaved | powersaved]]<br />
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[[Category:570E]] [[Category:600X]] [[Category:A20m]] [[Category:A20p]] [[Category:A20m]] [[Category:A20p]] [[Category:A21e]] [[Category:A21m]] [[Category:A21p]] [[Category:A22e]] [[Category:A22m]] [[Category:A22p]] [[Category:G40]] [[Category:G41]] [[Category:R30]] [[Category:R31]] [[Category:R32]] [[Category:R40]] [[Category:R40e]] [[Category:R50]] [[Category:R50p]] [[Category:R51]] [[Category:T20]] [[Category:T21]] [[Category:T22]] [[Category:T23]] [[Category:T30]] [[Category:T40]] [[Category:T40p]] [[Category:T41]] [[Category:T41p]] [[Category:T42]] [[Category:T42p]] [[Category:X20]] [[Category:X21]] [[Category:X22]] [[Category:X23]] [[Category:X24]] [[Category:X30]] [[Category:X31]] [[Category:X40]]</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=How_to_change_the_BIOS_bootsplash_screen&diff=792How to change the BIOS bootsplash screen2004-11-02T20:40:14Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>== BIOS-Bootsplash ==<br />
<br />
This Page describes how I replaced the standard IBM BIOS Bootsplash (The one with the Thinkpad- and Pentium M-Logo), without access to Microsoft Windows or a floppy drive. Although I just did this procedure as described, I wrote down the commends as I remembered, so beware.<br />
<br />
=== Getting the Files ===<br />
I got the bios upgrade diskette from the IBM site. It was an .exe-file... but<br />
no, no Windows executable, an OS/2 executable (well, it's IBM after all).<br />
And OS/2 executables don't run in wine. So I did an <tt>apt-get install dosemu<br />
dosemu-freedos</tt> (for non-debian-users: Get dosemu and freedos somewhere<br />
and make it work somehow).<br />
<br />
With dosemu, I could run this executable. But this program unfortunately<br />
needs a floppy drive to write to. So I dig into the linux toolbox and<br />
find: The loopback device. A <tt>dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/floppy.bin bs=1024<br />
count=1440</tt> creates a file for the floppy, a <tt>losetup /dev/loop0 /tmp/floppy.bin</tt><br />
makes it look like a block device, and this block device is what I put<br />
in the dosemu configuration as the floppy disk device. Now I can run<br />
the extractor executable (<tt>dosemu something.exe</tt>) and it will happily make /tmp/floppy.bin a floppy image.<br />
<br />
=== Adding the custom image ===<br />
This floppy image can be mounted (<tt>mount -o<br />
loop,umask=000 /tmp/floppy.bin /mnt/tmp</tt>), and now I can read the<br />
readme.txt. To replace the logo file, I create a 16bit 640x480 BMP<br />
file, save it as logo.bmp and run <tt>logo.bat</tt>. Just kidding, you can't just run<br />
batch files in linux, but - after testing the bitmap, which I just<br />
didn't do - that batchfile only runs <tt>prepare.exe logo.scr</tt>. This program<br />
won't run in dosemu, but in wine: <tt>wine prepare.exe logo.scr</tt>. Now there should<br />
be a new logo.mod. If so, you are set, <tt>unmount /mnt/tmp</tt> and go on.<br />
<br />
=== Fake a floppy ===<br />
Now I need to put the image on a floppy and boot. Since I don't have a<br />
floppy (and no floppy drive after all), I use a CD-R (a CD-RW, actually, for the<br />
cheap ones, like me) and burn it like that:<br />
<tt>cd /tmp; mkisofs -b floppy.bin floppy.bin | cdrecord -dev=<irgendwas> -</tt><br />
<br />
=== The exciting part ===<br />
After this worked, I rebooted from the cdrom and the IBM tool <br />
started. After confirming that I checked a few things, I got asked<br />
whether I want to replace the boot splash image. Yes, I do. It will then<br />
flash the BIOS, which will take about a minute. A hint: Since you know that<br />
any problem during this minute might break your thinkpad, if you have<br />
weak nerves, go and do something else instead of watching a<br />
non-changeing screen.<br />
<br />
=== Coda ===<br />
Suddenly the laptop turns itself off. Hopefully, it was finished - in my<br />
case it was. When booting, I got my bootsplash picuture (with some ugly<br />
text "To abort booting, press Enter" or something in the lower left<br />
corner). Unfortunately, you don't see it really long, but it's better<br />
than some advertisement, so it was worth it.<br />
<br />
<br />
''This text was meant as a immidiate mailinglist post, feel free to improve. :-)''</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Industry_News&diff=820Template:Industry News2004-09-30T18:46:21Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>30.09.2004: New [[fglrx]] driver version 3.14.1 <br/><br />
26.09.2004: [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-RECALL IBM recalls 56 Watt Thinkpad AC Adaptors]</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Industry_News&diff=596Template:Industry News2004-09-30T18:45:58Z<p>Nomeata: New driver version</p>
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<div>:30.09.2004: New [[fglrx]] driver version 3.14.1<br />
:26.09.2004: [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=TPAD-RECALL IBM recalls 56 Watt Thinkpad AC Adaptors]</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Fglrx&diff=693Fglrx2004-09-30T18:41:03Z<p>Nomeata: new Version</p>
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<div>== ATI drivers for Linux ==<br />
Linux ATI driver for Radeon, FireGL and Mobility boards<br />
<br />
=== Project Homepage / Availability ===<br />
http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html<br />
<br />
=== Status ===<br />
Current version: 3.14.1<br />
<br />
=== Packages ===<br />
*[[:Category:Debian | Debian]] Packages: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html<br />
*[[:Category:SuSE | SuSE]] Packages: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/ATI/<br />
<br />
=== Useful links === <br />
* [http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/ ATI Radeon Linux How-To]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Drivers]] [[Category:Debian]] [[Category:SuSE]]</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=5693Dfps2004-09-29T15:51:52Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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| R40 [[2722-BDG]] || glxgears || ain't no binary drivers here || 960 fps || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || v2.6.8 || || [[User:qua|qua]]<br />
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| T41 [[2373-1FA]] || glxgears || radeon-20040909 &<br> common-20040909 || 1370fps || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 || ? || no-mtrr || David Sudjiman <br />
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| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || 259fps || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || v2.6.8 || no-mtrr || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || 259fps || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || v2.6.8 || || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || 1209fps || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || v2.6.8 || no-mtrr || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || 1224fps || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || v2.6.8 || || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
|-<br />
| T42 [[2373-9XU]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || 1385fps || xorg 6.7 || ? || || [[User:zverg|Zverg]]<br />
|-<br />
| T42p [[2373-GTG]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || 1250fps || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || v2.6.8 || no-mtrr || [[User:tombreit|tombreit]]<br />
|}<br />
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===Notes:===<br />
* no-mtrr: ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for fglrx''<br />
* v4.3.0.dfsg: ''Debian's fork of XFree86 v4.3.0 - is actually mostly XFree86 v4.4 with patches from different places</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=542Talk:3Dfps2004-09-29T11:25:13Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>''(for discussoin of formatting, see history -- [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]])''<br />
<br />
Shoudn't the kernel be after the driver, since I'd rather compare different kernels and same driver than different driver and same kernel? --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 13:25, 29 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=5453Dfps2004-09-29T11:23:21Z<p>Nomeata: kernel versions</p>
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| R40 [[2722-BDG]] || glxgears || v2.6.8 || ain't no binary drivers here || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 960 fps || [[User:qua|qua]] ||<br />
|-<br />
| T41 [[2373-1FA]] || glxgears || || radeon-20040909 & common-20040909 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 || 1370fps || David Sudjiman || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || v2.6.8 || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || v2.6.8 || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || v2.6.8 || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ||<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || v2.6.8 || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1224fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ||<br />
|-<br />
| T42 [[2373-9XU]] || glxgears || || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || xorg 6.7 || 1385fps || [[User:zverg|Zverg]] || <br />
|-<br />
| T42p [[2373-GTG]] || glxgears || v2.6.8 || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1250fps || [[User:tombreit|tombreit]] || no-mtrr<br />
|}<br />
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===Notes:===<br />
* no-mtrr: ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for fglrx''<br />
* v4.3.0.dfsg: ''Debian's fork of XFree86 v4.3.0 - is actually mostly XFree86 v4.4 with patches from different places</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=4803Dfps2004-09-28T17:48:50Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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| T42 [[2373-9XU]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || xorg 6.7 || 1385fps || [[User:zverg|Zverg]] || <br />
|-<br />
| T42p [[2373-GTG]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1250fps || [[User:tombreit|tombreit]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ||<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || [[fglrx]] v3.12 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1224fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ||<br />
|-<br />
| T41 [[2373-1FA]] || glxgears || radeon-20040909 & common-20040909 || v4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 || 1370fps || David Sudjiman || no-mtrr<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Notes:===<br />
* no-mtrr: ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for fglrx''<br />
* v4.3.0.dfsg: ''Debian's fork of XFree86 v4.3.0 - is actually mostly XFree86 v4.4 with patches from different places</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:ThinkWiki&diff=476Talk:ThinkWiki2004-09-28T17:46:03Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>The main page of ThinkWiki is not protected, so feel free to edit it. But do it with caution - it's the primary connection to the all content of our '''ThinkWiki''' ;-)<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:11, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
I added to wikipedia-like templates. To edit them go to Template:ThinkWiki_Preamble and Template:ThinkWiki_News.<br />
Shall we put the other parts of the page in templates, too? If we do so, we could have that nice block design from wikipedia on our mainpage.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 11:37, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
I think this is too much color. Makes it less readable, takes longer to orientate than the plain list style layout.<br />
<br />
Liked it with only the two blocks in the beginning.<br />
<br />
If we want to use blocks for everything, please stick to fewer colors. I think the yellow of the first block is not bad, and else i'd suggest light grey, maybe light blue.<br />
<br />
However, if we stick to having all in blocks, how about [[User:Wyrfel/mainlayouttest | this color scheme]]?<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 16:35, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
Made [[User:Wyrfel/mainlayouttest-LTP | another Mainpage layout sketch]]. This tries to resemble the Tux and IBM logo colors and therefor looks quite "fresh".<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 18:59, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
: Too colorful for my taste, I think the other one is better --[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 19:46, 28 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
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'''Important change:''' Moved Main_Page to ThinkWiki for cosmetical reasons..<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 16:54, 26 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
== Needed: older ThinkPad specs... ==<br />
<br />
As you can tell by my userid here, I've got a 600E. There are a whole lot of them out there thanks to the fact it was the current model during the Dot-Com era. We should cover the older ThinkPads and their quirks as well as the later models. <br />
<br />
I also had a 365X, which is now living with a friend in the UK.<br />
<br />
Yes, the next ThinkPad I'll probably score is a T4x, they are really kewl machines and inspire technolust in this geek. But until then, I love my 600E and I'm looking forward to some upgrades this weekend. <br />
<br />
I will make copious notes on the upgrade process, which will include the installation of a 40GB hard drive and using the stock 10GB drive as extra Windows storage space. I have a hard drive bay module so the stock drive can be reused. The vast majority of the HD will be given over to an install of Debian Linux, with a 7GB Windows 2K partition because the University I will be attending a year from now demands it. (Yeah, I know, sucks, doesn't it.)<br />
<br />
ThinkPad different,<br />
Michelle</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=4193Dfps2004-09-26T22:59:51Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>Just enter your stuff in here, and please, no cheating :-)<br />
<br />
<!--<br />
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{| border="1" cellpading="2" cellspacing="0"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver w/ version !! X-Server w/ version !! fps !! User !! optional notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon v3.12 || debian's XFree86 fork v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears ||radeon v3.12 || debian's XFree86 fork v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon v3.12 || debian's XFree86 fork v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears ||radeon v3.12 || debian's XFree86 fork v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1224fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] <br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Notes:===<br />
* no-mtrr: ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Problem_with_DVI_throughput&diff=148Problem with DVI throughput2004-09-25T00:46:05Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
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<div>[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]], make sure you add these on here:<br />
http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2004-June/018165.html<br />
and especially<br />
http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2004-June/018167.html</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=ThinkWiki&diff=162ThinkWiki2004-09-25T00:25:03Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>This is '''ThinkWiki''', the new Wiki Web for Thinkpad users.<br />
If you want to learn more [[ThinkWiki:About|about ThinkWiki]], click [[ThinkWiki:About | here]]!<br />
<br />
Please [[ThinkWiki:Support|support]] us and help to create this wiki. Thanks!<br />
<br />
===Hardware:===<br />
<br />
[[models | Models ]] <tt>(Hardware specs of Thinkpad models)</tt><br />
<br />
[[biosupgrade | BIOS Upgrade]] <tt>(How to keep you BIOS up to date)</tt><br />
<br />
[[battery | Battery Treatment]] <tt>(Hints to expand your Thinkpads battery life)</tt><br />
<br />
[[knowproblems | Known Problems ]] <tt>(Known problem with certain Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
===Howto's:===<br />
<br />
[[installation | ThinkPad Installation]] <tt>(How to install your favorite OS)</tt><br />
<br />
[[winrecovery | Preload Recovery]] <tt>(How to recover the preloaded OS)</tt><br />
<br />
[[AddonHOWTOS | AddOns]] <tt>(How to make your IBM Thinkpad addons work)</tt><br />
<br />
===Drivers & Patches:===<br />
<br />
[[Drivers]] <tt>(Useful drivers for Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Tools]] <tt>(Useful Tools for Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Patches]] <tt>(Thinkpad related Patches to existing tools or drivers)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Scripts]] <tt>(Thinkpad related scripts)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Configs]] <tt>(useful configuration files)</tt><br />
<br />
===Statistics:===<br />
<br />
[[3Dfps | 3D FPS comparisons ]] <tt>(glxgears measurements and similar)</tt><br />
<br />
===Further Information:===<br />
<br />
[[mailinglists | Mailinglists ]] <tt>(talk to other people and get help)</tt><br />
<br />
[[links | important Thinkpad Links]] <tt>(links to useful sites regarding Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
[[IRC | IRC-Channels ]] <tt>(for urgent help and chatter)</tt><br />
<br />
----<br />
To experiment with this wiki try [[ThinkWiki:Sandbox]]. See the [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User%27s_Guide User's Guide] for usage and configuration help.</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Irc&diff=15583Irc2004-09-25T00:24:43Z<p>Nomeata: Irc moved to IRC</p>
<hr />
<div>#REDIRECT [[IRC]]<br />
</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=IRC&diff=682IRC2004-09-25T00:24:38Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>Please add more channels if there are any!<br />
<br />
* [irc://irc.freenode.org/ibmthinkpad #ibmthinkpad] on [http://freenode.org/ freenode]</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=IRC&diff=145IRC2004-09-25T00:24:19Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>Please add more channels if there are any!<br />
<br />
* [irc://irc.freenode.org/ibmthinkpad | #ibmthinkpad] on [http://freenode.org/ freenode]</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=ThinkWiki&diff=146ThinkWiki2004-09-25T00:20:49Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>This is '''ThinkWiki''', the new Wiki Web for Thinkpad users.<br />
If you want to learn more [[ThinkWiki:About|about ThinkWiki]], click [[ThinkWiki:About | here]]!<br />
<br />
Please [[ThinkWiki:Support|support]] us and help to create this wiki. Thanks!<br />
<br />
===Hardware:===<br />
<br />
[[models | Models ]] <tt>(Hardware specs of Thinkpad models)</tt><br />
<br />
[[biosupgrade | BIOS Upgrade]] <tt>(How to keep you BIOS up to date)</tt><br />
<br />
[[battery | Battery Treatment]] <tt>(Hints to expand your Thinkpads battery life)</tt><br />
<br />
[[knowproblems | Known Problems ]] <tt>(Known problem with certain Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
===Howto's:===<br />
<br />
[[installation | ThinkPad Installation]] <tt>(How to install your favorite OS)</tt><br />
<br />
[[winrecovery | Preload Recovery]] <tt>(How to recover the preloaded OS)</tt><br />
<br />
[[AddonHOWTOS | AddOns]] <tt>(How to make your IBM Thinkpad addons work)</tt><br />
<br />
===Drivers & Patches:===<br />
<br />
[[Drivers]] <tt>(Useful drivers for Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Tools]] <tt>(Useful Tools for Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Patches]] <tt>(Thinkpad related Patches to existing tools or drivers)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Scripts]] <tt>(Thinkpad related scripts)</tt><br />
<br />
[[Configs]] <tt>(useful configuration files)</tt><br />
<br />
===Statistics:===<br />
<br />
[[3Dfps | 3D FPS comparisons ]] <tt>(glxgears measurements and similar)</tt><br />
<br />
===Further Information:===<br />
<br />
[[mailinglists | Mailinglists ]] <tt>(talk to other people and get help)</tt><br />
<br />
[[links | important Thinkpad Links]] <tt>(links to useful sites regarding Thinkpads)</tt><br />
<br />
[[irc | IRC-Channels ]] <tt>(for urgent help and chatter)</tt><br />
<br />
----<br />
To experiment with this wiki try [[ThinkWiki:Sandbox]]. See the [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User%27s_Guide User's Guide] for usage and configuration help.</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=ThinkWiki:Sandbox&diff=153ThinkWiki:Sandbox2004-09-25T00:07:12Z<p>Nomeata: /* Subhead Text */</p>
<hr />
<div>This is the ThinkWiki sandbox.<br />
Here you can enter anything to explore the functions of the MediaWiki Software.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Some math: '''<br />
<math>\sum_{k=1}^n k = \frac{n(n+1)}{2}</math><br />
<br />
<br />
''Some italic text''<br />
<br />
'''Some bold text'''<br />
<br />
= Main Headline Text =<br />
<br />
== Headline text ==<br />
<br />
=== Subhead Text ===<br />
<br />
[http://thinkpad.moonflower.de External Link] ''hey, that's no external link :-)''</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=ThinkWiki:Sandbox&diff=141ThinkWiki:Sandbox2004-09-25T00:07:03Z<p>Nomeata: /* Subhead Text */</p>
<hr />
<div>This is the ThinkWiki sandbox.<br />
Here you can enter anything to explore the functions of the MediaWiki Software.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Some math: '''<br />
<math>\sum_{k=1}^n k = \frac{n(n+1)}{2}</math><br />
<br />
<br />
''Some italic text''<br />
<br />
'''Some bold text'''<br />
<br />
= Main Headline Text =<br />
<br />
== Headline text ==<br />
<br />
=== Subhead Text ===<br />
<br />
[http://thinkpad.moonflower.de External Link] ''hey, that's not external link :-)''</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=538Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T23:49:01Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
done it<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
I had it like this in the beginning.<br />
<br />
But i thought about splitting it into single pages and then this order would mean a lot of single pages. So i turned it around, because:<br />
<br />
Testapplication -> Driver ---link---> TestAppDriverPage -> ThinkpadModel is a hirarchy with a low number of single pages (All models for one TestApp-Driver-combination on one page).<br />
<br />
But you are right, it makes more sense from the comparison point of view to put the drivers in the end.<br />
<br />
Shell we split into separate pages anyway? And if so, on the Model level or on the testapp level?<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
Not before it is not too full<br />
<br />
Or just use a tabluar format, sorted this way, for example:<br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:44, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
I prefer the tabular way, it makes a lot of sense here.<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:55, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
Done<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:57, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
Maybe it would be also interesting which version of X and fglrx was running while benchmarking. I noticed some discussion about the new fglrx ver. 12 being somewhat slower than older versions and so on.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 01:10, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
Sure, but then we need a way to shorten the notes. For example, Just put "''no mtrr''" in there and explain it below the table<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 01:19, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
Good idea!<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 01:27, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
Done it. It wraps the lines here, but that's ok<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 01:49, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=1373Dfps2004-09-24T23:48:26Z<p>Nomeata: version numbers.</p>
<hr />
<div>Just enter your stuff in here, and please, no cheating :-)<br />
<br />
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{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver w/ version !! X-Server w/ version !! fps !! User !! optional notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon v3.12 || debian's XFree86 fork v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears ||radeon v3.12 || debian's XFree86 fork v4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] || no-mtrr<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Notes:===<br />
* no-mtrr: ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=131Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T23:19:07Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
done it<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
I had it like this in the beginning.<br />
<br />
But i thought about splitting it into single pages and then this order would mean a lot of single pages. So i turned it around, because:<br />
<br />
Testapplication -> Driver ---link---> TestAppDriverPage -> ThinkpadModel is a hirarchy with a low number of single pages (All models for one TestApp-Driver-combination on one page).<br />
<br />
But you are right, it makes more sense from the comparison point of view to put the drivers in the end.<br />
<br />
Shell we split into separate pages anyway? And if so, on the Model level or on the testapp level?<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
Not before it is not too full<br />
<br />
Or just use a tabluar format, sorted this way, for example:<br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:44, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
I prefer the tabular way, it makes a lot of sense here.<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:55, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
Done<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:57, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
Maybe it would be also interesting which version of X and fglrx was running while benchmarking. I noticed some discussion about the new fglrx ver. 12 being somewhat slower than older versions and so on.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 01:10, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
Sure, but then we need a way to shorten the notes. For example, Just put "''no mtrr''" in there and explain it below the table<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 01:19, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=1323Dfps2004-09-24T23:08:45Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>Just enter your stuff in here, and please, no cheating :-)<br />
<br />
<!--<br />
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<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=1243Dfps2004-09-24T23:08:15Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>Just enter your stuff in here, and please, no cheating :-)<br />
<br />
<!--<br />
Please order from left to right.<br />
You can use [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] to automatically enter your username if you are logged in<br />
--><br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=125Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T22:57:16Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
done it<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
I had it like this in the beginning.<br />
<br />
But i thought about splitting it into single pages and then this order would mean a lot of single pages. So i turned it around, because:<br />
<br />
Testapplication -> Driver ---link---> TestAppDriverPage -> ThinkpadModel is a hirarchy with a low number of single pages (All models for one TestApp-Driver-combination on one page).<br />
<br />
But you are right, it makes more sense from the comparison point of view to put the drivers in the end.<br />
<br />
Shell we split into separate pages anyway? And if so, on the Model level or on the testapp level?<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
Not before it is not too full<br />
<br />
Or just use a tabluar format, sorted this way, for example:<br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:44, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
I prefer the tabular way, it makes a lot of sense here.<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]] 00:55, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
Done<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:57, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=1233Dfps2004-09-24T22:57:01Z<p>Nomeata: Tabulator-Format</p>
<hr />
<div>Just enter your stuff in here, and please, no cheating :-)<br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Hardware_Specifications&diff=151Hardware Specifications2004-09-24T22:52:59Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>Hardware specs and information about the specific Thinkpad Models.<br />
<br />
Please choose (or create) your model:<br />
<br />
* T40p<br />
** [[2372-G1U]]<br />
<br />
* T41p<br />
** [[2373-GHG]]</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=118Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T22:52:12Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
done it<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
I had it like this in the beginning.<br />
<br />
But i thought about splitting it into single pages and then this order would mean a lot of single pages. So i turned it around, because:<br />
<br />
Testapplication -> Driver ---link---> TestAppDriverPage -> ThinkpadModel is a hirarchy with a low number of single pages (All models for one TestApp-Driver-combination on one page).<br />
<br />
But you are right, it makes more sense from the comparison point of view to put the drivers in the end.<br />
<br />
Shell we split into separate pages anyway? And if so, on the Model level or on the testapp level?<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
Not before it is not too full<br />
<br />
Or just use a tabluar format, sorted this way, for example:<br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p [[2373-GHG]] || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:44, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=115Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T22:44:48Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
done it<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
I had it like this in the beginning.<br />
<br />
But i thought about splitting it into single pages and then this order would mean a lot of single pages. So i turned it around, because:<br />
<br />
Testapplication -> Driver ---link---> TestAppDriverPage -> ThinkpadModel is a hirarchy with a low number of single pages (All models for one TestApp-Driver-combination on one page).<br />
<br />
But you are right, it makes more sense from the comparison point of view to put the drivers in the end.<br />
<br />
Shell we split into separate pages anyway? And if so, on the Model level or on the testapp level?<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
Not before it is not too full<br />
<br />
Or just use a tabluar format, sorted this way, for example:<br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p 2373-GHG || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p 2373-GHG || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:44, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=109Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T22:44:29Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
done it<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
<br />
----<br />
I had it like this in the beginning.<br />
<br />
But i thought about splitting it into single pages and then this order would mean a lot of single pages. So i turned it around, because:<br />
<br />
Testapplication -> Driver ---link---> TestAppDriverPage -> ThinkpadModel is a hirarchy with a low number of single pages (All models for one TestApp-Driver-combination on one page).<br />
<br />
But you are right, it makes more sense from the comparison point of view to put the drivers in the end.<br />
<br />
Shell we split into separate pages anyway? And if so, on the Model level or on the testapp level?<br />
<br />
[[User:Wyrfel|Wyrfel]]<br />
<br />
----<br />
Not before it is not too full<br />
Or just use a tabluar format, sorted this way, for example:<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|+ Benchmark results<br />
|-<br />
! Model !! Benchmark !! Driver !! fps !! User and Notes <br />
|-<br />
| T41p 2373-GHG || fgl_glxgears || radeon || 259fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|-<br />
| T41p 2373-GHG || glxgears || radeon || 1209fps || [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] ''vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:44, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=BIOS_Upgrade&diff=207BIOS Upgrade2004-09-24T22:35:09Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>=BIOS Upgrade=<br />
<br />
==Updating from within Windows==<br />
<br />
When upgrading from a Windows installation, a BIOS upgrade is quite simple if you follow the IBM instructions, as described on the respective BIOS upgrade page on the IBM site.<br />
<br />
{|<br />
| '''Models''' || '''Page'''<br />
|-<br />
| R50/p, R51 (1829, 1830, 1831, 1836), T40/p, T41/p, T42/p || [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50273 BIOS], [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50279 Embedded Controller Program]<br />
|-<br />
| R51 (2883, 2887, 2888, 2889, 2894, 2895) || [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-55003 BIOS], [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-54996 Embedded Controller Program]<br />
|-<br />
| R50e || [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-55000 BIOS], [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-54996 Embedded Controller Program]<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Updating from Floppy Disk==<br />
<br />
For other operating systems there is an option to create a bootable floppy disk. This is described on the [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50275 IBM site] as well. Note that you still need some Windows, OS/2 or DOS-System to create the floppy disk. For Linux you can use [http://www.dosemu.org/ DOSEMU] for this.<br />
<br />
{|<br />
| '''Models''' || '''Page'''<br />
|-<br />
| R50/p, R51 (1829, 1830, 1831, 1836), T40/p, T41/p, T42/p || [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50275 BIOS], [http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50277 Embedded Controller Program]<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Updating from CD/DVD Drive==<br />
<br />
The whole thing gets more complicated if you neither have Windows nor a floppy drive installed. This is what this page is intended to describe.<br />
<br />
One solution is to extract the floppy disk image with Windows, OS/2 or DOS, and use this image as a boot image for a CD/DVD. Thus it should be possible to upgrade the BIOS with the built-in CD/DVD drive.<br />
<br />
Be aware that IBM officially does '''not''' support this! The official statement to my support request was:<br />
<br />
<blockquote style="background: white; border: 1px solid black; padding: 1em;"><br />
<pre><nowiki><br />
I'm afraid we only support the options listed on our web page and no you<br />
can't burn a CD/DVD, however you can try to use an external USB FDD<br />
(floppy) drive. The experts recommend a IBM USB FDD, however they have also<br />
tested it with a Sony USB FDD drive.<br />
<br />
In order to make sure the drive is recognised you can boot up the FDD with<br />
a bootable dos diskette for w98<br />
</nowiki></pre><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
But it seems to be possible as Mathias Dalheimer describes this [http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/1998-January/009743.html here].<br />
<br />
To get an overview which models have been tested with this version, here is a list:<br />
<br />
===Does work:===<br />
{|<br />
| '''Model''' || '''Tested by'''<br />
|-<br />
| R31 || [http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/1998-January/009743.html Mathias Dalheimer]<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Does not work:===<br />
{|<br />
| '''Model''' || '''Tested by'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
Please note that testing this is '''at your own risk'''!!!<br />
<br />
==Updating with Network Boot Image==<br />
<br />
Anyone tried this? Please add your experiences here.<br />
<br />
Tried some different method? Please add as well.</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=102Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T22:31:25Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----<br />
<br />
done it<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:31, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=1193Dfps2004-09-24T22:31:00Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div><!--<br />
<br />
Hierarchy:<br />
<br />
=Model: i.e. Thinkpad T40)=<br />
==Test Application: (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )==<br />
===Driver: (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )===<br />
Who:<br />
:99fps<br />
:notes or other infos<br />
--><br />
<br />
=Model: T41p 2373-GHG=<br />
==Test Application: flg_glxgears==<br />
===Driver: fglrx===<br />
<br />
[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:09, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST):<br />
:259fps<br />
:''note: vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
----<br />
<br />
==Test Application: glxgears==<br />
===Driver: fglrx===<br />
<br />
[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:09, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST):<br />
:1209fps<br />
:''note: vesa framebuffer active, therefore no mtrr for radeon''<br />
----</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=101Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T22:26:31Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]]<br />
----<br />
I think so, too. Obviously the goal of fps comparison is to find out the best configuration for a specific model.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Akw|akw]] 00:22, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
----</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:3Dfps&diff=97Talk:3Dfps2004-09-24T22:10:17Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>I suggest<br />
<br />
*Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
<br />
Since you most likely want to compare results of same hardware and benchmark than yours.</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=1003Dfps2004-09-24T22:09:20Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>hirarchy suggestion:<br />
<br />
*Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
<br />
=fglrx=<br />
<br />
==flg_glxgears==<br />
<br />
===2373-GHG===<br />
<br />
[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:09, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST):<br />
:259fps<br />
:''note: vesa framebuffer active, therefore not mtrr for radeon'')<br />
----<br />
<br />
==flg_glxgears==<br />
<br />
===2373-GHG===<br />
<br />
[[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:09, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST):<br />
:1209fps<br />
:''note: vesa framebuffer active, therefore not mtrr for radeon''<br />
----</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=3Dfps&diff=953Dfps2004-09-24T22:04:44Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>hirarchy suggestion:<br />
<br />
*Driver (i.e. fglrx / xfree / xorg / ibm / dna / omega / ... )<br />
**test application (i.e. glxgears / 3Dmark2000 / ... )<br />
***Thinkpad Model (i.e. Thinkpad T40)<br />
<br />
* fglrx <br />
** flg_glxgears<br />
*** T41p<br />
**** 259fps (''note: vesa framebuffer active, therefore not mtrr for radeon'') [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:04, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)<br />
* fglrx <br />
** flg_glxgears<br />
*** T41p<br />
**** 1209fps (''note: vesa framebuffer active, therefore not mtrr for radeon'') [[User:Nomeata|Nomeata]] 00:04, 25 Sep 2004 (CEST)</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Nomeata&diff=547User:Nomeata2004-09-24T22:00:02Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>==Joachim Breitner==<br />
<br />
Not much here, yet. Some personal links<br />
<br />
* My homepage: http://www.joachim-breitner.de/<br />
* My e-mail address: mail@joachim-breitner.de<br />
<br />
I am a [[Debian]]-Developer:<br />
<br />
* debian e-mail address: nomeata@debian.org<br />
* personal debian website: http://people.debian.org/~nomeata/</div>Nomeatahttps://www.thinkwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Nomeata&diff=89User:Nomeata2004-09-24T21:59:51Z<p>Nomeata: </p>
<hr />
<div>==Joachim Breitner==<br />
<br />
Not much here, yet. Some personal links<br />
<br />
* My homepage: http://www.joachim-breitner.de/<br />
* My e-mail address: mail@joachim-breitner.de<br />
<br />
I am a [[Debian]]-Developer:<br />
<br />
* debian e-mail address: nomeata@debian.org<br />
* personal debian website: http://people.debian.org/~nomeata/<br />
<br />
[[de:Benutzer:Nomeata]]</div>Nomeata